We've often talked on this show about how few people actively seek out a career in learning and development. So, how exactly did we end up here? 

This week on the podcast, Ross D, Ross G and James are joined by Richard Dawson of Virgin Trains and Jilly Julian of Horwich Farrelly to share their origin stories. 

We discuss:

• our professional backgrounds
• the challenges of getting started in L&D
• the qualities that make someone suited to a role in L&D

If you'd like to get in touch with us about any of the things we've said on this show, you can tweet @ross__dickie, @RossGarnerGP, @JamesMcLuckie, @dawsonrichards and @JillyTats.

You can also tweet @GoodPractice or @GoodPracticeAUS.

To find out more about what we do, visit goodpractice.com.

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The book Ross G mentioned is I Remember Nothing by Nora Ephron.

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