Topics covered include balancing work and personal life, requesting reduced work hours, lightening up stress habits, challenges of getting a job reference from a toxic workplace, and the potential benefits and challenges of implementing a four-day work week.
Finding a good reference is crucial for securing a job and negative references can harm an applicant's chances.
Prioritizing mental health and finding a supportive work environment is important, even if it means leaving an employment gap on the resume.
Deep dives
Importance of References in Job Applications
In this episode, the hosts discuss the significance of references in job applications. They emphasize that finding a good reference is crucial for securing a job and highlight the impact that negative references can have on an applicant's chances. They share a story about a listener who experienced a hostile workplace and received a bad reference from their former boss. The hosts express their sympathy and provide advice on how to navigate this difficult situation, including exploring alternative references, seeking assistance from HR, and focusing on highlighting past performance reviews.
Challenges of the Job Market and Finding Employment
The hosts acknowledge the current challenging job market and the difficulties many individuals face in finding employment. They empathize with the listener who has been struggling to secure a new job due to their bad reference. While expressing frustration at the negative behavior of the former boss, they offer practical suggestions for the listener, such as highlighting their excellent performance reviews and considering sharing evidence of accomplishments instead of relying solely on references. The hosts emphasize the importance of perseverance and not giving up in the face of obstacles.
Dealing with Toxic Workplaces
The hosts discuss the listener's experience in a toxic and hostile workplace and the negative impact it had on their mental well-being. They express their sympathy for the listener's situation and stress the importance of prioritizing one's mental health. They encourage the listener to focus on finding a supportive and positive work environment moving forward, even if it means leaving a long employment gap on their resume. The hosts provide reassurance that many employers understand the impact of toxic workplaces and will value the individual's decision to prioritize their well-being.
Seeking Legal Action and Dealing with Defamation
The hosts briefly touch on the topic of seeking legal action in response to the bad reference and potential defamation by the former boss. While acknowledging the legal implications, they caution against immediately pursuing legal recourse due to the potential negative consequences it may have on the listener's future job prospects. Instead, they recommend seeking legal advice when necessary or considering alternative strategies, such as engaging with HR to address the issue internally. Ultimately, the hosts encourage the listener to focus on moving forward and finding a supportive work environment.
In this episode, Dave and Jamison answer these questions:
My company is doing performance reviews. While writing my self-review, I was shocked by how much I had accomplished in the last 6 months. I’d led our org to adopt multiple new technologies and supported other teams in adopting them, to great effect. But looking back, I wish I could trade half the accomplishments on my self-review for time spent taking better care of myself and my partner and kids. I’m not working crazy hours; I work a pretty regular 40hrs per week on a flexible schedule (with 3 young kids, this is, in fact, a crazy schedule). I’m on track for the promotion from senior to staff, maybe in this cycle, and I’m wondering: would it be crazy for me to propose that I stay in the senior pay band, and start working 4 days a week?
I’ve also considered scheduling personal time during the day. But I know I’ll be fighting an internal work-time-clock forged by years of cortisol flow. What’s your advice for lightening up a lead foot?
A listener named Aisha says,
6 months ago I quit my first job out of college. It was a very toxic and hostile workplace. I sucked it up for almost 3 years, but it got so bad that I had to quit my job without another lined up (yikes, I know).
I was a great employee, and was always given excellent performance reviews. After giving my boss plenty of notice, I asked if I could use him as a reference and he said yes.
It’s been a struggle finding another job. I’ve submitted hundreds of applications, reviewed my resume with mentors, and attended workshops for interviewing skills, but nothing helped.
Out of sheer desperation, I had a friend pretend to be a future employer and call my boss asking for a reference. As I suspected, he was providing a bad reference that included outright lies about my work ethic and me as a person. I have no idea why he would do this.
I am at a loss of what to do. The obvious thing to do it not include that job on my resume, but without it I basically have zero experience and a large gap between graduating and now. :(
I have contacted some of my old team members if they could be a reference instead of my boss, but none have gotten back to me as of yet weeks later. Please help! What do I do?
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