Humans On The Loop 163 - Bitcoin & Fungal Economies with Toby Kiers & Brandon Quittem
This week we’re joined by evolutionary biologist Toby Kiers and Bitcoin entrepreneur Brandon Quittem for an interdisciplinary trialogue on the analogy between digital currencies and the so-called Wood Wide Web. Toby studies fungal economies in the lab, and her research challenges the commonly-held assumption that mycorrhizal networks are socialist utopia hippie love-fests. Brandon evangelizes “The Internet of Money” as an exemplary instance of biomimicry and argues that Bitcoin is doing for human finance what mycelial networks have done for terrestrial biology. And I wade in with more than my usual helping of paradoxically-critical enthusiasm to ask if “natural” really equals “healthy” or “desirable” in our rush to serve the evolutionary algorithm of technological development.
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Brandon’s article, “Bitcoin is The Mycelium of Money”
Toby’s TED talk, “Lessons from fungi on markets and economics”
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Additional Resources:
Future Fossils 161 - Michael Phillip on Play & Creativity
Future Fossils 81 - Art Brock on Holochain and the Future of Currency
Future Fossils 56 - Sophia Rohklin on Anarchy, Ecology, Economy, and Shamanism
Complexity 35 - Geoffrey West on Physical Scaling Laws
Complexity 13 - Brian Arthur on the History of Complexity Economics
Complexity 8 - Olivia Judson on Life’s Major Energy Transitions
Deep Facebook thread on the un/sustainability of blockchains & cryptocurrencies
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