Freakonomics Radio 473. These Jobs Were Not Posted on ZipRecruiter
Aug 26, 2021
Michèle Flournoy, a former Pentagon official and national security expert, teams up with Cecil Haney, a trailblazing U.S. Navy four-star admiral, to delve into pressing issues. They discuss the nuances of nuclear deterrence and the essential qualities of smart leadership. The conversation also highlights the importance of diversity in military roles and the often-overlooked job opportunities that exist outside traditional platforms. Both guests share personal stories that illuminate the complexities of their experiences in the defense sector.
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Initial Career Choice
- Cecil Haney initially wanted to join the Army, but his father, a WWII veteran, discouraged him due to his negative experiences with racism.
- His father, Jesse Diggs, suggested the Navy after positive interactions with midshipmen.
Naval Academy Challenges
- Upon entering the Naval Academy, Cecil Haney faced the challenge of not knowing how to swim.
- Despite this and a demanding environment, he thrived, embracing intellectual and physical tests.
Quota System Accusation
- While at the Naval Academy, a midshipman told Haney he was only there because of a quota system.
- This incident fueled his determination to graduate and excel, proving his worth through hard work.