The New Music Business with Ari Herstand

All His Music Got Removed From Spotify for "Fraudulent Streaming Activity" Which He Didn't Do

Apr 3, 2024

Benn Jordan discusses the challenges of the streaming music industry, fraudulent streaming activity, financial struggles of independent musicians, ethics of AI in music, and the role of artists in shaping the future of music and AI with Ari Herstand.

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Quick takeaways

Lack of transparency in addressing fraudulent streaming accusations leaves artists vulnerable and bewildered.

Distributors' zero-tolerance policy towards fraudulent streaming activity leads to abrupt music takedowns without artist consultation.

Financial challenges persist for independent musicians, emphasizing the importance of finding value in the creative process.

Deep dives

False Streaming Activity Notification Leads to Music Removal

The podcast episode recounts a musician's experience where his music was unexpectedly removed from all streaming platforms due to a false streaming activity notification from TuneCore. Despite earning over half a million dollars through TuneCore, his music was taken down without any prior warning or communication. The abrupt removal highlighted the lack of transparency in addressing fraudulent streaming accusations, leaving the artist bewildered.

Introduction

2min

Exploring the Impact of Fraudulent Streaming on Artists and Distributors

3min

Discussion on Fraudulent Streaming Activity and Artist Blame in the Music Industry

4min

Discussion on Fraudulent Streaming Activity and its Impact on Artists on Spotify

3min

Unforeseen Consequences of False Streaming Claims

22min

Exploring the Creation of an AI Audio Company and Direct Distribution to DSPs

3min

Navigating Music Distribution Platforms and Fraudulent Streaming Accusations

27min

AI Models in Music Production: Challenges and Ethical Considerations

9min

Exploring AI's Impact on Artists' Revenue and Finding Fulfillment in Music

4min

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This week, Ari is joined by Benn Jordan, musician, youtuber and entrepreneur, to discuss the many challenges of the modern streaming focused music industry. They discuss the recent issue around artists getting their music removed from streaming services due to fraudulent streaming activity and the impact on artists’ careers. The conversation also touches on the recent zero tolerance policy of distributors. The conversation covers topics such as the financial challenges of being an independent musician, the future of sustaining a music career, the ethics of AI in music, creating ethical AI models, and the role of artists in shaping the future of music and AI.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction

05:35 Challenges of Streaming Platforms

11:10 The Problem with Subsidized Streaming

15:26 The Success Story of Independent Artists

22:43 Introduction to VoiceSwap

36:21 The financial challenges of being an independent musician

44:02 The future of sustaining a music career

49:43 The ethics of AI in music

01:00:02 The role of artists in shaping the future of music and AI

01:01:52 Defining success in the new music business

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