Product Rising What Got You Here Won't Get You There: Reflecting on Product Leadership Blind Spots with Cassie Campbell and Carmen Palmer
Join Carmen Palmer, CEO of Women in Product, as she chats with Cassie Campbell, a fractional CPO coach and founder, about the insights from their powerful podcast series focused on product leadership coaching. This episode delves into the importance of coaching, distinguishing it from training, and its value for product leaders. They discuss key themes from the series, personal experiences, challenges, and the role of community, especially for Women in Product. Cassie also shares her journey and how coaching can uncover blind spots, foster growth, and enhance leadership quality. Whether you're a seasoned product leader or just starting, this episode offers valuable takeaways to navigate your career journey.
00:00 Introduction and Host Transition
00:36 Unpacking the Podcast's Focus on Leadership Coaching
02:09 Themes from Top Coaches
02:34 Customer Discovery and Outcome-Oriented Product Management
04:19 The Importance of Context in Coaching
10:53 Personal Takeaways and Blind Spots
17:58 The Value of Executive Coaching
25:23 Treating Learning and Development as a Product
32:20 Navigating Financial Conversations in Product Leadership
34:14 Behind the Scenes: Building the Podcast Series
35:45 The Importance of Coaching in Product Leadership
36:58 Key Takeaways from Podcast Production
40:00 Addressing Team Challenges and Conflict
47:55 The Role of AI in Product Management
50:58 A Day in the Life of a Fractional CPO and Coach
58:52 The Power of Community and Women in Product
đResources:
Book: What Got You Here Wonât Get You There by Marshall Goldsmith and Mark Reiter - We used the saying âwhat got you here wonât get you thereâ in this episode and I thought it important to share that was not to refer to this book. However, Iâve started reading the book and can highly recommend to anyone curious about coaching.
Book: Transformed - Moving to the Product Operating Model by Marty Cagan
Book: Reboot - Leadership and the Art of Growing Up by Jerry Colonna
âšWhere to find Carmen:
đ« Where to find Cassie:
At Cassie Camp - Learn more about product leadership coaching and fractional product leadership
đđ»ââïžWhere to find Women in Product:
Website https://womenpm.org/
Join the Community https://womenpm.org/wip-community/