Who’s ready to get meta?! Jess and Caroline reflect on their podcast partnership—on their growth, their dynamic, and their challenges. They answer one of their most-asked questions: what was the process of picking each other as podcast partners? And liken the experience to a marriage.

They discuss how they work out dilemmas in their personal relationships, the contrast between problem solving and listening, and how pausing during an argument can help people articulate better. Plus, a complaint about DNA and a *real* group therapy update. Thanks for coming along on the ride!

This episode was produced by our prince, Abi Newhouse. ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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Intro Music: “Doja Dance” by PALA

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