

s07e96 | Middle Class Nationalism, with Joshua Lisec, Ghostwriter
Aug 17, 2025
Joshua Lisec, a ghostwriter specializing in right-leaning political works, shares insights from his journey into conservative thought after a progressive upbringing. He discusses the rise of middle class nationalism and the importance of traditional values in modern society. Lisec reflects on the evolving landscape of political discourse post-Trump, emphasizing the power dynamics and responsibilities among tribal groups. He also opens up about his journey of faith and parenthood, highlighting the significance of fostering a positive environment for future generations.
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Ghostwriting Is Mission-Driven
- Joshua Lisec says ghostwriters don't get writer's block because they start with a clear objective and audience.
- He frames business books as long-form sales letters that must deliver real value while converting readers into clients.
Client Behavior Prompted Political Shift
- Lisec recounts shifting right after working with respectful, punctual conservative clients who treated him as a peer.
- That experience led him to market toward the right and write more books in that space.
Hypocrisy Claims Don't Change Zero-Sum Politics
- Lisec argues calling out left hypocrisy fails because the left plays a winner-take-all game unlike a positive-sum contest.
- He connects that tactic to historical revolutionary patterns and contemporary left-wing tactics.