EP 37 — Building Useful AI on Crypto Rails with Ejaaz

Apr 2, 2025

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In this episode, Ejaaz joins Saurabh to explore what it really takes to build usable, decentralized AI tools on crypto rails.

We break down the AI x Crypto stack from first principles: – Why fragmented compute networks haven’t worked (and what might change that) – How AI agents are reshaping crypto UX – Why open-sourcing everything could backfire in an alpha-driven world – Who the actual users of crypto-AI might be—and why they’re likely not crypto-native

We also discuss why product-led growth beats token-first strategies in the long run, and how to think clearly when everything—from apps to infrastructure—is bleeding into each other.

If you're a founder, crypto builder, AI researcher, or just trying to make sense of where this industry is heading, this conversation is for you.

Key Moments —00:00 Introduction

01:10 Understanding the AI Stack

10:04 Business Models in the AI Stack

18:41 AI's Role in DeFi

27:58 The Future of Trading Agents

33:27 The Case for Proprietary Strategies

35:10 Opportunities for AI in Crypto

39:10 Bridging Web2 and Web3 with AI

43:16 The Role of Agents in Supply Chain and Enterprise

47:56 Identifying Blind Spots in AI and Crypto

49:39 Accelerate DAO