

How will President Trump handle intelligence in his second term?
Jan 21, 2025
In this insightful discussion, Beth Sanner, a highly decorated retired intelligence officer and former director of the President's Daily Brief, shares her unique experiences briefing President Trump. She reflects on the complexities of presenting intelligence to a president influenced by social media and the importance of personal connections. Sanner also tackles the challenges of cyber warfare, potential negotiations with Putin over Ukraine, and the delicate balance between intelligence and political pressures, shedding light on the future of the intelligence community.
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Briefing Trump
- Beth Sanner found briefing President Trump stressful but rewarding.
- She used humor to manage stress, noting Trump's impressions and levity.
First Impression
- Sanner's first impression of Trump was not positive.
- She noted his large physical presence and initially unfriendly demeanor.
Trump's Commitment
- Sanner recalls waiting to brief Trump, concerned about his schedule.
- Despite delays, Trump insisted on the briefing, surprising Sanner.