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Oaktree's Wayne Dahl on Credit Markets Right Now

Sep 18, 2023
36:13
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Discussing the current state of credit markets and the impact of interest rates, supply chain issues, and fiscal stimulus. Analyzing the shift towards leveraged buyouts in the loan market and the presence of froth in the leverage loan market. Exploring the Federal Reserve's stance on interest rate cuts and the impact of low interest rates on the housing market and economy.
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Quick takeaways

  • Despite the rise in interest rates, default rates in credit markets have not surged as expected due to COVID-induced defaults and the cleansing effect.
  • Credit investments in the current environment are compelling due to attractive yields, prices, and spreads in the high yield bond market.

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The Impact of Rising Interest Rates on Credit Markets

The podcast episode discusses the impact of rising interest rates on credit markets. It explores the reasons behind the recent rise in interest rates, such as supply chain issues and increased demand due to stimulus measures. The central banks globally have been forced to follow a playbook of raising interest rates quickly to address the inflation push. The guest, Wayne Doll, from Oaktree, explains the definition of risk at Oaktree, emphasizing the importance of minimizing loss for investors. Despite the rise in interest rates, the default rates in credit markets have not surged as expected, partly due to the cleansing effect of the COVID-induced defaults. However, looking forward, there may be challenges ahead with the looming maturity wall and refinancing needs for companies in the coming years.

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