School of War Ep 209: Jonathan Schanzer on the Israel-Iran Ceasefire
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Jun 24, 2025 
Jonathan Schanzer, executive director at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies and a Middle East expert, shares gripping insights from his time in Israel during the conflict. He discusses the psychological resilience of Israelis living under threat, contrasting moments of calm with intense anxiety. Schanzer also unpacks the implications of the recent Israel-Iran ceasefire, examining geopolitical tensions and the complexities of U.S. diplomacy in the region. His personal escape story showcases the challenges faced amid chaos and the strength found in resilience.
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On-the-Ground War Experience
- Jonathan Schanzer experienced a different kind of war start in Israel with ballistic missile attacks unlike previous rocket attacks.
- Responsible for 18 Americans, he had to ensure their safety while under unprecedented threat.
Israeli Resilience Under Fire
- Israelis display remarkable calm under missile threats, treating attacks as routine.
- This cultural resilience helps manage constant anxiety from relentless conflicts.
Sleep Loss and Stress Anecdote
- Schanzer suffered severe sleep deprivation and stress, describing a delay recovering from the intensity of missile attacks.
- He notes personal body chemistry changes and ongoing jumpiness from the trauma.