In an unusual twist, previous guest Carolyn D'Argenio returns to the show to interview host Eric Tivers. For either long-time listeners or new audience members, this is a nice episode exploring though topics ranging across Eric's history with ADHD and his podcast, the differences between therapy and coaching, psychological defense mechanisms, and a dog barking in the background. Many suggestions for audiobooks abound alongside helpful applications, and an especially long Random Question Round. Go to erictivers.com/65 for the full show notes and links mentioned in this episode. Visit for a link to Carolyn D'Argenio's type 1 diabetes crowd-funding campaign for her son. Go to or call 224‒993‒9450 to let Eric know if you're interested in joining the next ADHD reWired Coaching and Accountability group, which is starting in June. Connect with people virtually using Eric's favorite video conferencing and connectivity platform, Zoom, by visiting – the basic service is totally free. For a free audio-book download from our sponsor Audible.com, please visit Help the CHADD organization by donating to their fundraising campaign here: . Visit for information on improving the lives of people affected by ADHD.