
Masters of Scale Brené Brown & Reid Hoffman on the skills every leader needs now
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Oct 16, 2025 In a thought-provoking conversation, Brené Brown, renowned researcher and best-selling author, joins Reid Hoffman to explore the essence of courageous leadership. She emphasizes that courage can be taught and measured, advocating for vulnerability and self-awareness as key skills. Brené discusses the importance of emotional granularity for resilience and highlights compassion as a brave action vital for today's leaders. They also delve into strategic thinking amidst disruption and the need for leaders to create time for reflection and anticipation in their decision-making.
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Courage As A Learnable Skill
- Courage is a teachable skill set made of values clarity, integrity in vulnerability, and accountability.
- Leaders must know their go-to armor (self-protection) and recognize it to lead authentically.
Brown's Perfectionism Armor
- Brené Brown shares her personal armor: perfectionism and over-decisiveness in meetings.
- Her team noticed and stopped documenting decisions when she acted from that armor.
Discover Your Leadership Armor
- Ask trusted others how you self-protect when afraid but avoid direct reports because of power dynamics.
- Do self-reflection to identify your armor and be humble about how you show up.




