Tetragrammaton with Rick Rubin Gavin De Becker, Security Expert
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Nov 12, 2025 
Gavin de Becker, a renowned security expert and author of The Gift of Fear, shares fascinating insights into predicting and preventing violence. He discusses the origins and impact of his threat assessment tool, MOSAIC, and how intuitive feelings can guide individuals toward safety. Highlighting the evolution of threats in the digital age, he critically examines the role of social media and AI in radicalization. Gavin also reflects on human behavior, revealing red flags in relationships and the importance of early intervention in preventing violence.
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Phone Relationship Con Artist
- Gavin recounts investigating a woman who maintained phone relationships with prominent men by pretending to be a younger model.
- He discovered she was a brilliant manipulator and advised clients it was unlikely she'd harm them despite potential recordings.
No-Click Exploits Bypass All Precautions
- Gavin says governments can access any phone using no-click exploits like Pegasus 3 with no practical prevention.
- Targets of such tools cannot rely on ordinary precautions to keep private data safe from state actors.
Private Use Of Surveillance Tools
- Private companies and former intelligence operatives also use phone-exploit technologies to target critics or competitors.
- Gavin names pharma companies as frequent clients who deploy aggressive online tactics against dissenters.
