In this conversation, Jerrad Lopes and Shane Winnings discuss their experiences with Promise Keepers and their journeys to becoming dads. They also talk about Shane's unexpected transition from law enforcement to becoming the CEO of Promise Keepers. They share their passion for evangelism and the power of the Holy Spirit in their lives. Shane shares stories of praying for people and witnessing miraculous healings. They encourage listeners to be open to God's leading and to step out in faith to share His love with others. The conversation explores the importance of obedience and discipline in the Christian life. The speakers discuss the biblical principle of being faithful in the little things and how it leads to being entrusted with greater responsibilities. They emphasize the need to obey God even when it's uncomfortable or goes against our fleshly desires. They also highlight the balance between being strong and bold, yet tender and compassionate. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the role of discipline in shaping behavior and the importance of training ourselves to do things we don't want to do.