What role does power play in your organization and your team? Tania Luna joins Kevin to discuss rethinking power as capacity, not control, and using “power with” instead of “power over” others. She shares four “power with” principles: follow purpose over person, rely on context over control, cultivate talent over collecting it, and build community over crowds. Leaders need to shift their mindset and take action to create a more inclusive and empowering work environment.

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00:00 Introduction to Power in Leadership 00:44 Engagement with Audience 01:54 Introducing Tanya Luna 03:26 Tanya Luna's Background and Early Influences 06:20 Concepts of Power and Control 14:05 Power with vs. Power over 20:00 Implementing Power With Principles 27:33 Community Building and Leadership 31:43 Closing Remarks and Personal Interests of Tanya Luna

Meet Tania

• Name: Tania Luna
• Story: Tania Luna is the author of LEAD TOGETHER: Stop Squirreling Away Power and Build a Better Team. She is an entrepreneur, psychology researcher, and writer. She has founded and grown multiple companies, including Scarlet Spark, a nonprofit that creates human-friendly workplaces for organizations that help animals, and LifeLabs Learning, a leadership development company. Her other books include The Leader Lab: How to Become a Great Manager, Faster and Surprise: Embrace the Unpredictable and Engineer the Unexpected. She is also the co-host of the podcast Talk Psych to Me and a TED speaker on the power of perspective. Across her work, Tania strives to inspire interconnectedness among all living beings, humans included. She lives in a micro-sanctuary with rescued pigs, goats, dogs, roosters, cats, and the love of her life.
• https://www.tanialuna.com/
• https://www.linkedin.com/in/taniadluna/
• https://www.instagram.com/laniatuna

Book Recommendations

• Lead Together: Stop Squirreling Away Power and Build a Better Team by Tania Luna 
• John Dies at the End (John Dies at the End, 1) by Jason Pargin 
• The Story of B (Ishmael Series) by Daniel Quinn 

Related Episodes

• The Power of Vulnerability with Jeff Manchester
• Understanding Power with Deborah Gruenfeld

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