Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change The Inevitable End of Fossil Fuels | Ep221: Michael Liebreich & Bryony Worthington
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Aug 13, 2025 Is the energy transition a marathon rather than a sprint? The hosts investigate the peak of fossil fuel usage by 2035 and its decline by 2055. U.S. political dynamics offer mixed signals about clean energy adoption despite federal setbacks. They tackle public confusion around climate change and emphasize female leadership in climate policy. The challenges of hydrogen as a key player in decarbonization create lively debates, while the push for a pragmatic approach to clean energy is crucial to overcoming resistance and misinformation.
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State-Level Resilience Against Federal Rollback
- U.S. federal actions can slow clean-energy deployment, but state-level mandates and market demand keep projects moving.
- Clean technologies are often cheaper and faster to build at the state level despite hostile federal narratives.
Challenging Big Hydrogen Claims Live
- Michael challenged Andrew Forrest's hydrogen claims and pressed on economics during their interview.
- He concluded Forrest's electrolyser efficiency claims don't change the fundamental cost barriers for green ammonia exports.
Hydrogen Hype Delays Real Action
- Hydrogen hype acts as a delaying tactic by keeping focus away from scalable electrification.
- The 'hydrogen soufflé' lingers and distracts policymakers and investors from faster solutions.
