Neuroscientist Kelly Clancy - How Games Change Reality
Jul 12, 2024
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Neuroscientist Kelly Clancy discusses the historical influence of games on warfare, economics, and more. She explores game design evolution from Myst to modern gaming, the role of uncertainty in games, and the impact of John von Neumann in science. Clancy also delves into game theory history, addictive gaming elements, drawbacks of gamification, and the educational potential of games.
Games have influenced warfare, economics, and intelligence historically.
Probability theory emerged from the world of gambling, impacting mathematics.
Game theory models decision-making and behavior in competitive environments.
Deep dives
The Fascination with Games and Intelligence
The podcast delves into the world of games, exploring their profound impact on intelligence and human behavior throughout history. Kelly Clancy, a neuroscientist and physicist, discusses the allure of games and their connection to learning and uncertainty. Games are highlighted as tools that trigger brain activity, with dopamine playing a crucial role in addictive behaviors linked to uncertainty in games like dice and chess.
The Evolution of Probability Theory from Gambling
The episode explores the historical development of probability theory, tracing its roots back to the world of gambling. Kelly Clancy discusses how mathematicians like Blaise Pascal and Pierre de Fermat revolutionized mathematical understanding through probability theory. She emphasizes how gambling led to significant advancements in mathematics, paving the way for modern science and business.
War Games and Military Strategy with Kriegsbiel
The podcast delves into the concept of Kriegsbiel, a war game that emerged in Germany in the early 1900s, offering a practical approach to strategic military training. Kelly Clancy elaborates on how Kriegsbiel influenced the rise of the German Empire through innovative military tactics and training methods. The game's strategic focus empowered young officers with valuable decision-making skills and contributed to Germany's victories in various conflicts.
The Influence of Game Theory on Decision-Making
The podcast addresses the impact of game theory on understanding decision-making processes, as conceptualized by John von Neumann and Oscar Morgenstern. Game theory is positioned as a framework for modeling human behavior and rational choices in competitive environments. Concepts like Nash equilibrium and cooperative gameplay are discussed, highlighting how game theory has shaped diverse fields from economics to military strategy.
Challenges and Opportunities in Modern Game Development
In discussing the future of games, Kelly Clancy addresses the complex landscape of modern game development, including addictive elements embedded in games that raise ethical concerns. The episode explores the gamification of various aspects of life, such as work platforms and education, while emphasizing the potential for games to revolutionize learning through interactive and engaging approaches like Mega Curie, a puzzle game designed to teach four-dimensional thinking. The conversation delves into the balance between gamification for fun and its ethical implications in broader societal contexts.
Kelly Clancy is both a neuroscientist and a physicist, and has held positions at MIT and DeepMind. She's also the author of Playing With Reality, a new intellectual history of games that explores the influence that games have played - if you'll forgive the pun - over many centuries on warfare, gambling, economics and much more. If you've ever wanted to know why chess is used as a stand-in for intelligence or what game theory really is, this episode of the podcast is for you.