
Incels One Shot at the Market
Oct 15, 2025
Mr. East, a high-functioning autistic self-identified incel of East Asian descent, shares his journey into the black pill community, discussing how isolation and misunderstanding shape his worldview. New Cold Squid, an Australian with a South Asian Muslim background, highlights the pressure of parental expectations and the sting of everyday rejection. Both guests challenge common misconceptions about incels, advocating for empathy and understanding. They reflect on the raw realities of loneliness, social exclusion, and the complexities of seeking connection.
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Black Pill As A Spectrum
- Mr. East frames the black pill as a spectrum where uncontrollable traits affect dating success rather than a fixed misogynistic creed.
- He emphasizes acceptance of immutable factors like looks and wealth instead of blaming individuals.
Media Lumping Fuels Polarization
- Mr. East says media lumps red pill, black pill, and incels into one violent misogynist group, deepening gender divides.
- He warns that mislabeling fuels polarization and prevents nuanced understanding.
Change Society Rather Than Demonize
- Mr. East says society must change to prevent isolated young people falling into harmful online communities.
- He urges broader social responsibility rather than simply demonizing those in the community.
