

Bonus: Zakiya Used to Be So Fun (Proxy podcast)
Jul 18, 2025
Zakiya Gibbons, a podcast producer, candidly shares her journey from a vibrant social life to solitude during the pandemic, reflecting on how this change impacted her identity. Bill Chopik, an expert in psychology, sheds light on personality evolution and the complexities of change. Together, they discuss the challenges of navigating social anxiety, the importance of self-discovery, and how life experiences shape who we are. Their insights offer a compelling look at how personal transformation can arise from adversity.
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Zakiya's Pandemic Social Shift
- Zakiya used to thrive in active social settings and nightlife in New York City.
- During the pandemic lockdown, she discovered a deep comfort in being alone, a stark contrast to her former self.
Personality Evolves with Life Changes
- Personality traits often shift due to life changes, especially in early adulthood.
- Zakiya's drop in extroversion aligns with normal developmental patterns but increased anxiety is less typical.
Bill's Social Transformation Story
- Bill Chopik, initially introverted and socially isolated, pushed himself in grad school to join diverse friend groups.
- That openness revived his love for people and transformed his personality positively.