The Julia La Roche Show

#278 Anna Wong: What If We Are In A Recession And People Haven't Noticed Yet?

Aug 5, 2025
Anna Wong, Chief US Economist at Bloomberg Economics, dives deep into the troubling employment data, revealing only 35,000 jobs added over three months. She discusses the implications of this dismal figure and whether it's a fluke or signs of a real recession. Wong also examines tariff impacts on inflation, predicting rising service costs as consumer sentiment improves. Drawing from her time at the White House, she warns that tariff uncertainty may hurt the economy more than the tariffs themselves, and anticipates delays in Fed rate cuts.
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INSIGHT

Shocking Payroll Revisions Signal Weakness

  • Major downward revisions in payroll data shocked experts by showing a sluggish three-month job growth at only 35,000.
  • This suggests the economy might be weaker than perceived, raising doubts about pre-existing optimistic narratives.
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Non-Farm Payrolls Drive Market Moves

  • Non-farm payroll data is the most market-moving economic indicator in the U.S.
  • Revisions and flaws in it cause significant uncertainty and can invalidate many models.
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Birth and Death Model Flaws

  • The birth and death model in labor statistics causes imprecision due to outdated assumptions about firm creation.
  • Gig economy shifts confound this model, leading to overstatements of job gains.
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