Sarah and Molly have a good gab with Brendan Leonard, a.k.a. Semi-Rad, author of the satirical-and-insightful book I Hate Running and You Can Too. The trio talks about:

-the love-hate relationship many folks have with running and fitness;

-the need to becoming comfortable with being uncomfortable;

-the intangible gains running bestows, such as resilience and stoicism;

-the ins-and-out of self-talk; and,

-accountability v. inspiration.

In the intro chitchat, Molly details her upcoming hiking adventure, including her greatest irrational fears. Brendan joins the conversation at 14:45.

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#481: A Chat w/ the Author of I Hate Running