Derek Thompson: Democrats Must Change

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Apr 11, 2025

Derek Thompson, a senior writer at The Atlantic and co-author of Abundance, discusses the Democratic Party's urgent need for a strategic rethink to attract future voters. He argues that Democrats should shift from a focus on redistribution to pragmatic progress, especially in areas like housing and clean energy. Thompson highlights the internal tensions within the party, including union influences and regulatory challenges, and emphasizes building a coalition that prioritizes growth and responsiveness to urban and suburban dynamics.

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Trump's Protectionism vs. Abundance Agenda

Trump's protectionist trade policies negatively impact economic growth.
Thompson argues for an "abundance agenda" focused on growth and positive-sum interactions.

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Trump's Impact on Free Trade

Trump's negative polarization inadvertently boosts support for free trade.
Even those who identify as very liberal show increased support, highlighting an ideological shift.

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Divisions within the Democratic Party on Free Trade

The Democratic party is divided on free trade, with some leaning towards populism and protectionism.
Thompson advocates for strategic free trade, particularly excluding China due to geopolitical concerns.

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Derek Thompson, a senior writer at The Atlantic and co-author (with Ezra Klein) of Abundance: The New Politics of Growth, joins this episode of Just Asking Questions to make the case that if Democrats want to win in the future, they must first learn to build. In this conversation, Thompson challenges Democrats to reimagine themselves as the party of pragmatic progress, rather than redistribution.

We wanted to bring Thompson on the show now because the tension inside the Democratic Party is reaching a breaking point. In the wake of disappointing results and growing disillusionment with blue-state governance, a growing chorus—including Thompson—is calling for a course correction. But can Democrats overcome their own internal roadblocks—union entrenchment, environmental regulation gridlock, and NIMBYism—to actually deliver on that promise?

This interview was recorded on April 8, 2025.

Sources Referenced:

Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein
Then-Gov. Jerry Brown in 2012 pitching California's Rail Project
Cities aren't back—by Jed Kolko—Slow Boring
Chart: Which US states generate the most solar and wind energy?
Solar panel prices have fallen by around 20% every time global capacity doubled—Our World in Data
Energy Mix—Our World in Data
Milton Friedman's warning to DOGE

Chapters

00:00 Coming up…
00:17 Introduction and framing the abundance agenda
05:00 Free trade, Trump, and economic polarization
10:00 Elevator pitch for the book Abundance
15:00 California's failure to deliver liberal abundance
20:00 The housing crisis and how liberals should fix it
25:00 Suburbanization, urban decline, and market logic
30:00 California High-Speed Rail: what went wrong?
35:00 Is high-speed rail a true public good?
40:00 Clean energy progress in Texas vs California
45:00 Solar, wind, and battery breakthroughs
50:00 Carbon externalities and the path to clean energy
55:00 Can abundance work within the Democratic Party?
01:00:00 Elon Musk, Doge, and ideological contradictions
01:05:00 Should Operation Warp Speed should be a model for other stuff?

Producer: John Osterhoudt

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