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215: Why will no-one play with me?
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Quick takeaways
- Social skills training can benefit children in recognizing social cues and managing behavior problems.
- There is a shift towards viewing neurodivergences as inherent qualities, advocating for support based on individual preferences.
- Parental involvement in behavior skills training shows varied effectiveness, highlighting the need for ongoing support and evidence-based strategies.
Deep dives
Exploring Social Skills Training for Children
Social skills training for children, both neurotypical and neurodivergent, aims to improve interpersonal communication, emotional regulation, and positive social interactions. Research indicates that programs targeting social skills can benefit children in recognizing social cues, fostering relationships with peers, and managing behavior problems. The studies emphasize early intervention to prevent negative outcomes like aggression, delinquency, and internalizing issues.
Challenging Assumptions about Social Skills Development
There is a shifting perspective towards viewing neurodivergences such as ADHD and autism as inherent qualities rather than deficits needing correction. Contrary to traditional norms, researchers advocate for supporting individuals in addressing challenges based on their preferences, acknowledging the value these traits bring to both the individual and society at large. By focusing on strengths and adjusting societal expectations, a more inclusive approach to neurodiversity can be fostered.
Parental Involvement in Behavior Skills Training
Parental involvement in behavior skills training for children with ADHD and autism shows varied effectiveness. Studies highlight the challenge of maintaining treatment fidelity when parents implement interventions, with mixed results observed in changing children's behaviors. The research underscores the need for parent-friendly materials and ongoing support to enhance parents' ability to apply evidence-based strategies successfully.
The importance of understanding social skills training methods
Understanding the correlation between social skills training offered in universal school programs and the challenges faced by parents in supporting their children's social skill development. The podcast emphasizes the necessity of referencing studies to distinguish between personal opinion and factual evidence. It delves into the significance of integrating social skills like managing emotions, reading social cues, and adapting communication to facilitate better social interactions.
Challenges in implementing social skills training methods
Exploring the potential limitations and challenges within social skills training as highlighted in the podcast. This includes the need for a child-centric approach in skill development rather than a unilateral decision-making process by adults. The summary addresses the importance of considering individual needs, consent, and avoiding reinforcement and punishment models in social skills training. It emphasizes the significance of valuing neurodivergent traits and supporting children in their social growth without overshadowing their unique strengths and characteristics.
Discover insights on why no one will play with your child and explore effective strategies for building social skills in children
Does your child have big emotional blow-ups in social situations?
Are they a wallflower who doesn't know how to make friends?
Do they struggle to understand when it's appropriate to interrupt, tell the truth, and follow the rules vs. let things go.
I've been interested in neurodivergence for a while - I'm hoping to do an episode soon on parenting with ADHD, and in the course of research for that a parent in the Parenting Membership recommended the book Why Will No-One Play With Me.
The book is designed to help parents teach their children social skills - and I do think it has some useful ideas in it, but there are some pretty big caveats.
This episode takes a look at the broader set of research on teaching children social skills to ask whether we CAN do it and if we can, whether we SHOULD do it and if we should, what kinds of tools should we use? The popular Social Stories method? Role plays? Peer coaching?
This episode answers questions like:
- What types of teaching are likely to be beneficial?
- How can we teach social skills to Autistic children and children with ADHD, as well as neurotypical children?
- What are the potential later-life impacts of lagging social skills (and do what we miss when we look at it from this perspective)?
- At what age range is teaching social skills is most likely to succeed?
- How can we know whether we should teach a child social skills?
Other episodes mentioned
- 175: I’ll be me; can you be you?
- 075: Should we Go Ahead and Heap Rewards On Our Kid?
- 061: Can Growth Mindset live up to the hype?
Jump to Highlights
00:52 Introducing the topic for this episode
02:59 Social skills programs show small, temporary effects and are more effective when led by experts, with mixed results for neurodivergent children.
09:38 Programs to teach social skills often try to change how neurodivergent kids act and they don't always work well.
24:01 Dr. Carol Gray's Social Stories ™ help children, especially those with autism, understand social situations without directly aiming to change their behavior.
28:59 Terra Vance's adaptations of Social Stories ™ highlight how they sometimes fail to address children's real experiences and emotions.
33:28 Research on parent-led interventions for children with ADHD and autism vary in effectiveness.
43:24 The book "Why Will No One Play With Me" doesn't provide specific references to support its ideas, making it unclear if they're based on research or opinion.
46:30 Teaching social skills includes managing emotions, understanding social norms, and practicing simulations for better responses.
50:49 The "Play Better Bridge to Betterment" model in Why Will No One Play With Me categorizes children's readiness for change into stages: pre-contemplation, contemplation, preparation, action, and maintenance. It emphasizes that children may need support to recognize and modify behaviors.
53:10 Caroline Maguire's approach in "Why Will No One Play With Me" mirrors problem-solving methods, yet it prioritizes a reward system over understanding children's underlying needs.
55:02 Maguire's method in "Why Will No One Play With Me" uses rewards to shape children's behavior, raising concerns about parental control and consent in interactions with their children.
56:46 Maguire's book concludes with exercises aimed at understanding social interactions and unspoken rules, but it raises concerns about imposing norms without considering individual needs and communication styles.
01:02:41 Maguire's book discusses challenges with school communication norms favoring concise storytelling, which often align with White communication styles.
01:06:11 Social skills training often overlooks children's consent and preferences, focusing instead on adult-determined goals, which may affect trust and authenticity in social interactions.
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