
The Prestige TV Podcast ‘Pluribus’ Episode 5: The Specificity of Grief (and Milk Slurping) | Prestige TV | The Ringer
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Nov 26, 2025 In this discussion, the hosts dive into the emotional depths of grief as portrayed in the show, using Carol's character as a focal point. They explore the contrasting themes of individual mourning versus collective hive behavior. Humorous moments arise from Carol's antics at Sprouts and a playful debate on quirky food ethics. The hosts also tackle listener questions about societal norms and the nuances of audience relationships with creators. A nod to classic mystery tropes adds a clever layer to their banter.
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Grief Trumps Global Ambition
- The episode shows Carol's public crusades as ways to avoid confronting personal grief.
- Even world-changing success can't restore the intimate loss of Helen, which reshapes Carol's private world.
Hive Mind Learns Emotionally
- The hive mind is learning emotional intelligence by experiencing new feelings like indignation toward Carol.
- That nascent development creates social friction and changing group behaviors.
Optimization vs. The Social Contract
- The hive mind optimizes care and therefore risks excluding those deemed 'inefficient' to maintain resources.
- That optimization can erode the social contract of protecting vulnerable people, creating moral Darwinism.


