This conversation with two Iranian activists, both of whom will remain anonymous for obvious reasons. 'Vicky' joined us from Tehran, and Kiana from Manchester. We talked about the recent Iranian uprising following the murder of Jina 'Mahsa' Amini and why 'reforming' the regime cannot work. We spoke about the strikes, the clear gendered aspect of the protests, and what might come next. We also spoke about the now-familiar campism that we see in much of the world whereby a shallow 'anti-imperialism' is often enough for folks to erase the agency of activists and protesters in other countries.

Check out 'Women for Iran': https://linktr.ee/WomenForIran

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Mentions and Book Recommendations:

- In Defense of Sentimentality by Robert C. Solomon
- The Wind in My Hair: My Fight for Freedom in Modern Iran by Masih Alinejad

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