

The Moth Podcast: Diavian Walters and Lori Gottlieb
Sep 5, 2025
Diavian Walters, a Brooklyn native and aspiring art therapist, shares her comedic and poignant relationship with hair, reflecting on her journey from straightened styles to embracing her natural curls while navigating family dynamics and alopecia. Lori Gottlieb, a renowned psychotherapist and bestselling author, offers a humorous insight into her quest for the perfect sperm donor, highlighting the ups and downs of motherhood. Together, they explore themes of identity, personal growth, and the emotional intricacies of self-acceptance.
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The Big Chop That Changed Her
- Diavian Walters cut off her relaxed hair impulsively to transition to natural curls and felt immediate shrinkage and insecurity.
- Family reactions ranged from supportive (mom) to mocking (dad called her a "mushroom"), but friends later praised her coils and changed her view.
Hair As Identity And Agency
- Diavian realized her haircut unlocked confidence and a willingness to say yes to opportunities.
- She now frames her hair as a political and personal relationship, not just an aesthetic choice.
Searching For The Perfect Donor
- Lori Gottlieb explored sperm-donor websites and relied on 'lab girls' and her therapist to vet candidates.
- She selected a popular donor (