#762 - Mark Normand - Secret Hollywood Rituals, Shane Gillis & Toxic Masculinity
Mar 25, 2024
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Comedian Mark Normand delves into Hollywood secrets, Shane Gillis on SNL, deplatforming fears, offensive Hollywood norms, and the impact of woke culture. The conversation also covers NYC changes, bail reform, cultural dynamics, representation in comedy festivals, media bias, gender norms, evolving comedy, luxury beliefs, wakeboarding versus wake surfing, and dream analysis.
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Quick takeaways
Deplatforming and cancel culture can have severe mental and emotional repercussions, showcasing the harsh consequences of online scrutiny.
Historically, comedians like Richard Pryor and George Carlin challenged societal norms through daring humor, facing backlash for their controversial content.
Life circumstances experienced by pregnant women can lead to genetic changes in children, highlighting intergenerational impacts of stress.
Studies reveal that de-platforming influencers can significantly reduce online attention, demonstrating the effectiveness of such measures in diminishing influence.
Masculinity norms are evolving, as men embrace 'Baby Girl' traits like emotional expression and femininity, reshaping traditional perceptions of manhood.
Deep dives
Challenging Traditional Dating Norms
Traditional dating norms still prevail in heterosexual courtships, with men often expected to pay for most or all dates, while women rarely pay. Despite evolving gender roles, men are still expected to foot the bill, indicating deep-seated cultural expectations in dating.
The Impact of Stress and Poverty on Genetic Expression
Studies show that stress experienced by pregnant women, such as entering poverty, can result in genetic changes in children. This highlights how life circumstances can affect genetic expression and potentially be passed down through generations, shedding light on the intergenerational impact of stress.
Coping with Deplatforming and Cancel Culture
Deplatforming and cancel culture can have significant mental and emotional impacts on individuals, leading to anxiety, stress, and even suicidal ideation. The fear of losing one's job or facing public backlash can be overwhelming, highlighting the harsh realities of online scrutiny and consequences.
The Role of Outspoken Comedians in Challenging Societal Norms
Comedians like Richard Pryor and George Carlin have historically pushed boundaries and challenged societal norms through their humor. Pryor's audacity in addressing taboo topics and Carlin's critique of the establishment set them apart as trailblazers in comedy who faced pushback for their daring and controversial content.
Impact of De-platforming on Online Attention
A study revealed that de-platforming influencers reduced online attention significantly. After 12 months, online attention towards de-platformed influencers decreased by 63% on Google and 43% on Wikipedia, showing the effectiveness of de-platforming measures. Both permanent and temporary de-platforming actions were found to diminish online attention towards influencers, highlighting nuances in the intervention outcomes.
Trends in Masculinity and 'Baby Girl' Vibe
A trend known as 'Baby Girl' is emerging where men embrace traditionally feminine aspects like carrying purses, wearing sequins, and expressing emotions openly. Heterosexual women, especially Gen Z, are attracted to men displaying 'Baby Girl' traits, challenging traditional definitions of masculinity. Men are shifting towards honesty, respect, protection, and emotional expression, not just toughness, reflecting changing perceptions of masculinity.
Correlations in Unusual Data Sets and Language Use with Sleep Quality
Unusual correlations were found in various data sets, such as rainfall in San Francisco correlating with printing press operators in Rhode Island. Additionally, a study revealed a link between poor sleep quality and increased use of humor and curse words in language. Individuals experiencing sleep issues tend to use arousing language more, potentially compensating for tiredness by engaging in self-deprecating humor or profanity.
Language Usage and Linguistics
The podcast delves into the intricacies of language usage, focusing on the impact of words and their contexts. It discusses how certain words carry different weights in various cultures, highlighting the nuances of language and the power it holds in shaping interactions and perceptions. The importance of being mindful of the words we choose and their implications is emphasized, reflecting on how language can be both a tool for connection and a potential source of conflict.
Psychological Insights on Addictions and Cravings
The episode explores addictive behaviors and cravings, drawing parallels between various forms of addiction. It discusses the psychology behind compulsions and addictions, shedding light on the role of dopamine and anticipation in driving addictive tendencies. The comparison between physiological and behavioral dependencies offers a deeper understanding of how cravings are influenced by the anticipation of the next 'hit.' The conversation extends to the addictive nature of phone usage, where the need for continuous engagement is likened to a compulsive behavior akin to seeking the next fix.
Mark Normand is a podcaster, actor and a comedian.
Is Hollywood a secret cabal of child-eating sorcerers? It might be. Mark has spent enough time in its orbit to know. And if nothing else he can riff on some good theories for 2 hours with me.
Expect to learn what Mark thinks of the downfall of NYC and Bail reform, why the resurgence of Shane Gillis on SNL might not be the death rattle for woke culture, how Mark remains positive in the middle of negativity, if he's worried about being deplatformed, his thoughts on what is considered offensive in Hollywood, the one word you can never say to an American and much more...
