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Azeem Azhar's Exponential View
The future of Human-AI coexistence, according to Kevin Kelly (co-founder of Wired, futurist, author)
Mar 19, 2025
Kevin Kelly, co-founder of Wired Magazine and visionary futurist, shares his bold insights on the future of AI. He discusses the implications of declining populations on economies and reimagines a bot-to-bot economy where humans might even be paid to read emails. Kelly explores how AI could enrich human purpose and the value shifts that may arise from a scarcity of people. He offers a thought-provoking glimpse into a world where human attention becomes a prized commodity, highlighting the essential balance between technology and human connection.
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- Declining human populations will necessitate a shift toward a bot-to-bot economy, reshaping traditional economic models and consumer interactions.
- Embedding human values into AI technologies presents significant ethical challenges, requiring thoughtful governance to ensure beneficial coexistence with intelligent machines.
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Economic Impacts of Declining Population
The future economy is expected to experience significant changes due to human population decline, which leads to a smaller consumer base and workforce. This trend challenges traditional capitalism, as economic growth has historically been correlated with increasing population levels. Countries are exploring various policies to incentivize higher birth rates, but historical attempts have generally been unsuccessful. With a smaller population, the focus may shift from growth to maturity, emphasizing producing quality goods and services instead of merely increasing quantity.
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