Kevin Kelly is a co-founder of Wired Magazine and a renowned author and futurist. Decades ago, Kevin predicted much of today's technological and cultural landscape. In this discussion, he presents his new bold vision for what’s coming next: The Handoff to Bots.
In this episode, you’ll hear:
- Why declining populations will radically reshape economies
- What a bot-to-bot economy could look and feel like
- Why people of the future might be paid to read emails
- How AI could help humanity find deeper purpose
- Why this future might be closer than you think
Kevin’s links:
Website/blog: https://kk.org/
Twitter/X: https://x.com/kevin2kelly
Instagram: / kevin2kelly
Azeem's links:
Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/
Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar?ori...
Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem
Timestamps:
(00:00) Intro
(02:17) The baby black hole behind Kevin's theory
(10:49) Kevin's thesis: The handoff to bots
(15:05) This world is closer than we think
(19:32) The role of humans in this new world
(21:23) Could monopoly influence pose a problem?
(28:33) The nature of “struggle” in this new world
(32:42) Could we see countries competing for population?
(36:06) How a scarcity of humans might change what we value
(42:30) What would 1994 Kevin think of 2025 Kevin's blog?
Production:
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