Brené with Bono on Songs of Surrender and Carrying the Weight of Our Contradictions, Part 1 of 2
Nov 16, 2022
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Brené Brown and Bono share a magical conversation about love, faith, and rock and roll. Bono's new memoir, Surrender: 40 Songs, One Story, is a beautiful tribute to his wife, family, and fans. They delve into embracing contradictions in life and art, finding strength in navigating conflicting aspects of oneself. The podcast explores the power of communal experiences in rituals, ceremonies, and sports games.
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U2 intentionally left room for interpretation in their songs on the album 'War', merging religious art with a clash-like vibe to address global issues abstractly.
Bono reflects on the contradictions within himself as an artist, lover, and family man, emphasizing the necessity of surrendering to uncertain emotions for personal growth.
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The Power of Music in Artistic Expression
Bono discusses the creation of the album 'War' and how intentional it was to leave room for interpretation in the songs. The band aimed to write about real-world issues and individuals, merging religious art with a clash-like vibe to address global matters abstractly. They realized that leaving space for interpretation allowed for deeper emotional connection and engagement with the audience.
Surrendering to Self-Discovery
Bono opens up about his health journey, including discovering his exceptional lung capacity and the emotional impact of heart surgery. He reflects on the inner conflicts he faced, the contradiction between being an artist, lover, and family man, recognizing the complexities and paradoxes within himself. Bono shares a moment of despair during a performance that led to a profound realization about grace and the necessity of surrendering to uncertain emotions.
Navigating Contradictions and Sacred Spaces
Bono delves into his upbringing marked by paradoxes, with his father embodying contrasting traits of working-class practicality and cultural sophistication. He reflects on his attraction to rituals and ceremonies, expressing a growing interest in formal sacred spaces like cathedrals and the power of communal singing. Bono contemplates the significance of duality and the value of embracing contradictions in personal growth.
Embracing the Second Half of Life
Inspirational discussions with Brené Brown and references to thinkers like Carl Jung and Richard Rohr prompt Bono to reflect on the evolution of personal spirituality. He expresses a newfound appreciation for communal singing, rituals, and symbolic ceremonies, suggesting a deeper dive into exploring sacred spaces. Bono's evolving spiritual journey embraces the beauty of contradiction, ritual, and communal experiences for personal growth and connection.
Welcome to Part 1 of my conversation with Bono, recorded live at the historic Paramount Theatre in Austin, Texas. I have been a U2 fan since the very beginning, and this event, presented by Austin City Limits Festival’s Bonus Tracks, was sheer magic. I don’t know what happened, but we got mentally in sync, spiritually locked in together, and we talked about everything from rock and roll to love and faith. His new memoir, Surrender: 40 Songs, One Story, is the ultimate love story — to his wife, Ali; to his family; and to all of us who’ve found all kinds of peace and challenges in the music and the lyrics.