The Gray Area with Sean Illing What if we get climate change right?
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Sep 23, 2024 
Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, a marine biologist and co-founder of the Urban Ocean Lab, discusses climate change through a hopeful lens. She emphasizes the dangers of climate anxiety and advocates for a future we want to inhabit. Johnson shares her journey from nature lover to environmental advocate and highlights existing barriers to climate action, including political influence and financial pressures. With a focus on community and lifestyle changes, she inspires listeners to envision a sustainable future and take meaningful action against climate change.
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The "How fucked are we?" question
- Ayana Elizabeth Johnson says people always ask her, "How fucked are we?" regarding climate change.
- She explains that while the situation is serious, there's still much we can do with existing solutions.
Degrees of Suffering
- Addressing climate change is no longer about prevention, but about adapting to the changes.
- The focus should be on minimizing suffering and optimizing outcomes within a range of possible futures.
Transformation, Not Sustainability
- Instead of "sustainability" or "revolution", Johnson prefers "transformation" to describe the needed change.
- "Transformation" suggests a reshaping of how we live, encompassing design, culture, and society alongside technical solutions.
