Shameless Popery

#199 The Early Church Was Catholic on the Eucharist (William Lane Craig REBUTTAL Pt. 2) - Joe Heschmeyer

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Aug 12, 2025
Joe critiques the claims of William Lane Craig regarding Eucharistic disunity in early Christianity. He challenges the misconception that the real presence wasn’t widely accepted until later centuries, bringing in historical figures and their beliefs. The conversation delves into the diverse views of early Church Fathers, advocating for continuity in interpretations. It also highlights early Christian worship practices, asserting that belief in the real presence of Christ was prevalent much earlier than often portrayed.
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INSIGHT

Early Church Unity On Real Presence

  • William Lane Craig claims real presence wasn't dominant until the 11th century.
  • Joe argues that claim contradicts patristic evidence showing early unity on the Eucharist.
INSIGHT

Macy Shows Differences In Emphasis

  • Gary Macy says East and West emphasized different aspects of the Eucharist, not opposite doctrines.
  • Joe notes the Fathers saw these emphases as harmonious.
ADVICE

Use The Hermeneutic Of Continuity

  • Read early Fathers assuming agreement unless strong evidence shows disagreement.
  • This avoids inventing conflicts where writers simply stress different aspects.
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