

25. You’re NOT A MESS. The world is.
Sep 9, 2021
A viral note sparks a heartfelt conversation about collective struggles, reflecting the overwhelming pain in the world. The hosts explore the emotional complexities of motherhood, especially as children grow independent. They discuss the balance between addressing climate anxiety and fostering shared humanity. Emphasis is placed on proactive empathy and the importance of recognizing individual contributions. Personal anecdotes illustrate navigating vulnerability and the power of emotional connections.
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Glennon's Transformation
- Glennon shares how her son Chase's existence transformed her life since she learned about her pregnancy with him on Mother's Day, 19 years ago.
- She credits Chase's gentle nature and wisdom as her guiding force in becoming a better person.
Living Up to Expectations
- Glennon reflects on how people strive to live up to the expectations of those who love them most.
- She views personal growth as a continuous process of becoming the person others believe we can be.
Dress Rehearsal for Loss
- Glennon equates the feeling of her son leaving for college to a 'dress rehearsal' for death and separation.
- She plans a three-day retreat to process the intense emotions surrounding this transition.