Parker Klein and Joe Steilberg, co-founders of Twos app, share how writing things down and using technology can benefit neurodivergent individuals. They discuss integrating incentives and gamification for organization, the social aspect of their app, and the importance of clarity and peace of mind.
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ADHD Diagnosis Led To Writing Habit
Joe described being diagnosed with ADHD after childhood behavior and testing with toys in the psychologist's office.
He disliked medication and discovered writing things down became his non-prescription coping strategy.
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Capture Ideas As Small 'Things'
Treat each idea as an individual 'thing' rather than forcing full notes or documents first.
Small, fast entries fit ADHD brains better and make capture easier than long-form notes.
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Use Gentle Rewards To Build Habits
Gamified micro-rewards (confetti, sounds, coins) provide quick dopamine that reinforces capture and completion.
Design rewards to trigger internal motivation, not external pressure, for lasting habit change.
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On this episode, we talk about tech ideas that help neurodivergent people. Parker Klein and Joe Steilberg, the co-founders of the notes and organization app Twos, join Emily Kircher-Morris to discuss the benefits of writing things down and how technology can help people stay organized. They share their personal experiences with ADHD, and how their app is helping neurodivergent people take control of their lives. They also talk about the integration of incentives and gamification in their app to motivate users to stay organized. The conversation explores the social component of Twos, and the importance of clarity and peace of mind that comes from staying organized.
Takeaways
Writing things down can improve organization and help with memory
Technology can provide tools and features to make writing things down more efficient and enjoyable
Incentives and gamification can motivate users to stay organized and form good habits
Sharing thoughts and goals with others can provide a sense of community and support
Listing out tasks and goals can bring clarity and peace of mind
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Parker Klein and Joe Steilberg are the co-founders of Twos - an app developed to help people stay organized with to-do lists, reminders, events and more. Parker used to work at Google and left his job to pursue Twos full-time. Joe is a natural-born salesman with ADHD. They are both on a mission to help people write things down and stay organized.
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