Productized Podcast 180. The Cultural Code: What Every Product Team Needs to Understand | Chui Chui Tan
What if your product isn't failing because of functionality—but because of cultural disconnect?
In this episode of the Productized Podcast, host André Marquet sits down with Chui Chui Tan, cross-cultural strategist and founder of Beyō Global, to unpack what most product teams miss: cultural intelligence. From her work with Spotify, IKEA, and Netflix to real-world lessons in markets like Colombia, Kenya, and India, Chui Chui shares why localization isn’t enough—and how culturalization can make or break a product’s global success.
They explore:
➡️ Why “build first, localize later” often fails
➡️ The stages of cultural maturity in product development
➡️ How Spotify uncovered surprising user behavior in Latin America
➡️ Why product teams must champion cultural risk
➡️ What AI can and can’t do for cultural insight
Whether you're building for global markets or just trying to improve user engagement at home, this episode will reframe how you think about product strategy, organizational culture, and global design.
📌Chapters:
01:26 Meet Chui Chui Tan: Founder of Beyō Global
02:00 Meditation, travel, and daily routines
09:50 Cultural adaptation: Spotify, IKEA, Netflix
12:50 What “culture” really means in product
15:10 Why localization is not enough
19:04 Payments, trust & PIX in Brazil
22:20 M-Pesa in Kenya & ecosystem fit
25:10 Cultural risks in product development
27:19 Real case study: Spotify in Colombia
31:55 Netflix pricing backlash in Portugal
34:20 5 Stages of cultural adaptation
37:00 Can AI understand cultural nuance?
40:20 Tools & frameworks for cultural insight
43:21 The mindset shift PMs need now
45:23 How to connect with Chui Chui
🔗 Where to find Chui Chui:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuichuitan/
Website: https://beyo.global
Books: https://beyo.global/books
🔗 Where to find Andre: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marquet/
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