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Forward Guidance

There Will Be No Recession | Jonny Mathews

Sep 5, 2024
Jonny Mathews, a veteran macro trader and partner at Brevin Howard, dives into why he believes a recession isn't looming. He argues that real consumption is set to boost GDP in Q3 while unemployment is expected to stabilize. Mathews shares insights on market opportunities, the dynamics of fixed income, and the importance of household savings. He also touches on trading strategies, particularly the outlook for gold and the impact of AI on productivity, all with a sense of cautious optimism for the future.
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  • The strong belief in avoiding a recession is supported by robust consumer spending and corporate earnings, despite some economic concerns.
  • Falling inflation rates are positively impacting real economic growth, allowing consumer expenditures to sustain overall GDP growth in 2023.

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Steady Economic Outlook Defies Recession Fears

The belief that the U.S. economy will avoid a recession remains strong, supported by robust corporate earnings and consumer spending. Although there are concerns about a potential doom loop, where declining incomes lead to decreased consumption and falling corporate earnings, there are counterarguments highlighting the Federal Reserve's capacity for intervention. Historical precedents for recessions, such as pandemics or global financial crises, are not evident, suggesting that a serious economic downturn is improbable without significant external shocks. Continued strong payroll growth and consumer confidence indicate that the economy is resilient, particularly as inflation rates fall.

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