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Naomi Klein on her doppelganger (and yours)

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Sep 25, 2023

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Naomi Klein

Naomi Klein, an influential author and activist known for her work on climate change and capitalism, discusses her latest book, "Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World." She explores the absurdities of identity in our digital age, emphasizing how social media shapes our doppelgangers. The conversation dives into the chaos of modern crises and the impact of conspiracy theories on public perception. Klein also warns against the dangers of digital self-optimization, urging a return to authentic connections amidst technological pressures.

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ANECDOTE

From Essay to Book

Naomi Klein initially intended to write a short essay about identity confusion.
The unexpected rise of anti-vax protests in her remote town prompted her to expand it into a book.

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Mass Migration of Minds

If misinformation reached Klein's remote community, it's a larger phenomenon.
The book explores this mass migration of minds and strange new alliances.

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Naomi Wolf's Transformation

Naomi Wolf, initially a liberal feminist icon, became a COVID-19 misinformation vector.
Her shift from feminism to conspiracy theories led to confusion with Naomi Klein.

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Navigating the Intersection of Feminism and Right-Wing Strategy

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Doppelgangers in the Digital Age

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The Dangers of Digital Self-Optimization

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Navigating Identity in the Digital Age

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Exploring Identity and Perception in 'Doppelganger'

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The Shock Doctrine

The Rise of Disaster Capitalism

Naomi Klein

In this book, Naomi Klein argues that neoliberal economic policies, promoted by Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics, have risen to global prominence through a strategy she calls 'disaster capitalism. ' This involves exploiting moments of shock and extreme violence to implement radical privatization and deregulation policies. Klein traces the origins of these tactics back to the University of Chicago and CIA-funded experiments, and documents their application in various parts of the world, including Latin America, Eastern Europe, South Africa, Russia, and Iraq. The book exposes how these policies have been used to advance corporate interests at the expense of public welfare, often resulting in significant social and economic disparities.

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The Age of Surveillance Capitalism

The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power

Shoshana Zuboff

In this book, Shoshana Zuboff provides a comprehensive analysis of surveillance capitalism, a new economic order where corporations accumulate vast wealth and power by predicting and controlling human behavior. Zuboff details how this form of capitalism, originating in Silicon Valley, has spread into every economic sector, creating 'behavioral futures markets' where predictions about our behavior are bought and sold. She argues that this system, free from democratic oversight, poses significant threats to democracy, freedom, and human future, and urges readers to take action to protect their autonomy in the digital world.

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NO LOGO

Taking Aim at the Brand Bullies

Naomi Klein

In 'No Logo', Naomi Klein examines the rise of corporate branding and its effects on culture, work, and consumer choice. The book is divided into four parts: 'No Space', 'No Choice', 'No Jobs', and 'No Logo'. Klein discusses how multinational corporations prioritize brand marketing over product manufacturing, leading to issues such as sweatshops, corporate censorship, and the erosion of public spaces. She also highlights various resistance movements, including culture jamming and anti-globalization protests, and argues for a more just and sustainable economic model.

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The Climate Book

Greta Thunberg

In 'The Climate Book', Greta Thunberg compiles insights from over 100 experts across various fields to provide a comprehensive guide to understanding and combating climate change. The book outlines the science behind climate issues, the impact on the planet, and the urgent need for systemic change. It emphasizes the importance of immediate action and holistic solutions to address this multidimensional crisis.

Every generation thinks they’re living through the strangest times, but is our generation right? Sean Illing speaks with writer and activist Naomi Klein about her new book, Doppelganger: A Trip Into the Mirror World. They discuss how a much different Naomi — her doppelganger — scrambled her professional life and led to an unexpected plunge into the ironies and absurdities of our digital world.

Host: Sean Illing (@seanilling), host, The Gray Area

Guest: Naomi Klein (@NaomiAKlein), author of Doppelganger and the co-director of the Centre for Climate Justice

References:

Doppelganger by Naomi Klein (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, 2023)

The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism (Picador, 2008)

No Logo: No Space, No Choice, No Jobs by Naomi Klein (Picador, 1999)

Backlash by Susan Faludi (1991)

The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power by Shoshana Zuboff (PublicAffairs, 2019)

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