
 The Atlas Obscura Podcast What Makes a Pest?
 Apr 10, 2025 
 Bethany Brookshire, an animal-human interaction expert and author of 'Pests, How Humans Create Animal Villains', dives into the intriguing nature of pests. She humorously discusses the garden battles with gray squirrels and the emotional biases that influence our views on animals like pigeons versus beloved pets. The conversation spans historical perspectives on pests, the complexities of coexistence with wildlife, and how environmental factors shape our perceptions, making us rethink which animals deserve our sympathy. 
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