Fritjof  Capra in dialogue with fellows from the IK Systems Lab, Jack Manning  Bancroft and Tyson Yunkaporta. Fritjof shares his accessible translation  of a systems view of life - a four-part logic sequence that sits well  in dynamic relation with Indigenous Knowledge. Creation is not just  about patterns and replication, but the inevitable pattern-breakers that  give rise to mutation, elaboration and emergence. What is intelligence,  sentience, creativity and imagination? And magic? Well, that is simply  what science might refer to as non-linearity. Wonderful yarn.