

Poor Sleep, Big Pay Gaps, Culture Shifts: The State of Devs in 2025 with Sacha Greif
Aug 14, 2025
Sacha Greif, creator of the State of Devs 2025 survey, dives into the realities of developer life beyond coding. He uncovers the alarming truth about poor sleep, averaging just 6.9 hours a night, and its impact on mental health. Discussing salary disparities, he explains why 'engineer' titles command higher pay, influenced by company size and job roles. Greif sheds light on cultural shifts within the tech industry, the rising presence of women in development, and how regional differences shape developer experiences.
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Surveys Beyond Code Reveal More
- Sacha expanded from tech-focused surveys to explore developers' lives beyond code, like sleep and hobbies.
- He aimed to attract underrepresented groups by asking about discrimination, mental health, and everyday life.
Broader Questions Improve Representation
- Women's participation rose to 15% by designing questions that appeal beyond pure tech topics.
- Surveyed health issues showed poor sleep as the top concern among developers.
Sleep Patterns Are Surprisingly Stable
- Average developer sleep was 6.9 hours per night and hard to shift with common strategies.
- Many expected factors like parenthood had surprisingly limited effect on sleep quantity.