S7 Ep48: NOBEL SPECIAL: James Robinson on antisocial norms
Oct 15, 2024
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In this insightful discussion, James Robinson, a University of Chicago professor and 2024 Nobel Prize co-winner, dives into the complexity of antisocial norms like the Colombian saying, "don’t be a toad." He explores how these norms, despite being disliked, persist in societies due to historical contexts such as La Violencia. Robinson also reveals the dynamics of altruism through economic games, shedding light on how personal beliefs clash with social expectations, and he discusses the critical need for institutional reform to challenge these ingrained behaviors.
The antisocial norm of avoiding reporting wrongdoing in Colombia, encapsulated by 'don't be a toad,' has deep historical roots and societal implications.
Addressing antisocial norms effectively requires strengthening formal institutions and altering incentives, rather than solely promoting pro-social behaviors.
Deep dives
Understanding Social Norms
Social norms are informal, unwritten rules that guide acceptable behavior within a community or society. These norms often arise to address societal challenges, yet their origins can be complex, as demonstrated in the context of Colombia, where historical influences such as Iberian culture have shaped social behaviors. The podcast highlights a specific anti-social norm prevalent in Colombia: the inclination to avoid reporting wrongdoing, summed up by the phrase 'don't be a toad.' This anti-snitching sentiment is deeply ingrained and interconnected with the social dynamics of Colombia, influenced by its history of violence and conflict.
Impact of Anti-Social Norms
The anti-social norm of not reporting misconduct creates significant implications for social cooperation within communities. When individuals follow the norm of remaining silent about wrongdoings, it can lead to a breakdown of pro-social behaviors, which are crucial for promoting cooperation and positive social interactions. The podcast discusses the researcher’s experimental findings that demonstrate how invoking the norm of 'don't be a sapo' undermines fairness and cooperation in economic interactions. This phenomenon highlights the importance of understanding how such norms can impede economic development and social cohesion.
Challenges in Overcoming Anti-Social Norms
Addressing the prevalence of anti-social norms requires more than just awareness of their negative consequences, as many individuals recognize the undesirable aspects yet adhere to them out of social pressure. The podcast suggests that the weak enforcement of formal institutions in Colombia contributes to the persistence of these norms, indicating that improving legal systems and institutional reliability is essential for changing collective behavior. The researchers indicate that interventions aimed at altering incentives for invoking such norms could prove more effective than merely promoting pro-social behavior alone. Therefore, strengthening formal institutions may be the key to transforming social dynamics and fostering a more cooperative society.
The saying “don’t be a toad” in Colombia tells people to mind their own business and not to tell on others. The warning that “snitches get stitches” is common to many societies. It’s easy to imagine why groups adopt prosocial norms like sharing and volunteering. But what sustains an “antisocial” norm like this one? James Robinson talks to Tim Phillips about why people dislike but adopt antisocial norms, what that means for society, and what we can do to change them.
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