

4.44 Trent Hunter, Stephen Wellum, & David Schrock • Interview • "Working As Unto the Lord: Seven Ways to Work Harder and Be Better"
Sep 29, 2025
58:57
ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as Trent Hunter and Stephen Wellum interview David Schrock on his essay, "Working As Unto the Lord: Seven Ways to Work Harder and Be Better".
Timestamps
- 00:46 – Intro
- 02:12 – Where Did David’s Article Come From?
- 03:20 – Dr. Wellum’s Job History
- 05:50 – David Schrock’s Job History
- 07:10 – When Did the True Significance of Work Break In?
- 10:24 – Beginning with Good Works in Ephesians 2?
- 12:22 – Placing Ephesians House Codes in Context
- 13:58 – Christ is the Ultimate Motivation
- 15:28 – How Do We Relate Our Other Motivations to Christ?
- 18:41 – How Do You Cultivate a Work Ethic in Our Kids?
- 22:35 – Christ As Our Supervisor and Our Earthly Supervisors
- 26:45 – Serving in the Military
- 28:26 – COA Birthday Ad
- 28:56 – Christ Our Sanctifier
- 31:16 – The False Secular-Sacred Divide
- 32:58 – Pastors Applying Truth So Their Congregants’ Vocations
- 37:10 – Pastoring Challenges of Different People’s Vocations
- 41:41 – Christ Is Our Hiring Manager
- 43:30 – Entrusting Christ’s Sovereign Rule
- 46:37 – Christ Is Our Example
- 50:00 – Christ Is Our Evaluator
- 54:15 – Closing Thoughts
- 56:48 – Outro
Resources to Click
- “Working As Unto the Lord: Seven Ways to Work Harder and Be Better” – David Schrock
- Erika Kirk’s Instagram Statement
- Theme of the Month: Get to Work: Grasping the Doctrine of Vocation
- Give to Support the Work
Books to Read
- Ephesians (ZECotNT) – Clinton E. Arnold