On with Kara Swisher

MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace on Iran & the Limits of Trump’s Power

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Jun 19, 2025
Nicolle Wallace, host of MSNBC’s Deadline: White House and former White House communications director, engages in a thought-provoking discussion. She analyzes President Trump’s contradictory stance on Iran and addresses his credibility crisis with Americans. The conversation shifts to the alarming rise of political violence and its implications for democracy. Nicolle reflects on the 2008 presidential campaign and the challenges journalists face in today's fast-evolving media landscape, highlighting the importance of integrity in reporting.
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ANECDOTE

Nicolle's Podcast Debut Anxiety

  • Nicolle Wallace struggled with embarrassment over her first podcast episodes and wanted to pull them at the last minute.
  • She realized authenticity and learning publicly might be why audiences tune in.
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Trump's Foreign Policy Limits

  • Trump's credibility is weakened and crucial in times requiring unified national voice.
  • His foreign policy seems impulsive and poorly supported by a formal apparatus, making outcomes uncertain.
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Divisions in MAGA on Israel

  • The MAGA movement is split between interventionist hawks and isolationists on foreign policy.
  • Trump likely won't fully support Israel, balancing between abandoning Republican establishment and coalition.
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