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Inside the Secret World of Prop Traders | Noel Smith of Convex Asset Management

Dec 17, 2024
Noel Smith, founder of Convex Asset Management and a seasoned proprietary trader, shares insights from his career focused on volatility trading strategies. He discusses the allure of prop trading’s staggering returns compared to traditional fund management. Smith highlights the challenges of raising capital and the vital role of relationships in hedge fund success. He also explains the advantages of options pricing over analyst forecasts, the unique dynamics of trading biotech stocks, and the importance of adapting strategies to market fluctuations.
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INSIGHT

What Proprietary Trading Really Is

  • Prop trading means running your own decisions and capital with wide autonomy and bespoke risk apportionment.
  • Noel Smith emphasizes backing skilled traders while avoiding outside capital to prevent added complications.
ANECDOTE

From Two Partners To Backing 100+ Traders

  • Noel started on the CBOE floor with partner capital and then backed over a hundred traders across many pits.
  • He described evolving from two partners to funding other traders while keeping firm capital private.
ADVICE

Structure Backing Around Loss Exposure

  • When backing traders, focus on how much they can lose and structure risk notional versus loss exposure.
  • Use graduated profit splits and require traders keep capital at higher tiers to align incentives.
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