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'The Interview': Chloé Zhao Is Yearning to Know How to Love

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Jan 24, 2026
Chloé Zhao, Academy Award–winning filmmaker behind Nomadland and Hamnet, reflects on her creative process and leadership style. She discusses improvisation on set, training as a death doula, confronting impermanence, and how grief, myth, and memory shape her work. Short, candid, and emotionally curious conversation.
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INSIGHT

Embrace Chaos To Find Truth

  • Chloé Zhao embraces chaos as a creative method and lets unplanned moments shape scenes.
  • She captures spontaneous truth on set and preserves it in the edit to keep authenticity.
ADVICE

Lead By Switching Modes

  • Balance two leadership archetypes: the general and the priestess.
  • Switch between control and surrender depending on the scene's needs.
INSIGHT

Grief Is Innate; Rituals Shape It

  • Biological grief is unchanged across eras, but cultural stories and rituals shape suffering.
  • Medicalizing death and losing communal rites increase avoidable suffering today.
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