The Jimmy Akin Podcast #023 Gavin Ortlund & The Papacy - Jimmy Akin
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Feb 24, 2025 
In this engaging discussion, Gavin Ortlund, a Reformed Baptist apologist known for his YouTube channel Truth Unites, delves into the complexities of the papacy. He boldly argues that there was no bishop of Rome until the second century and that this crucial role isn't sufficiently grounded in the New Testament. Their dialogue covers historical evidence of apostolic leadership, the evolution of church governance, and contrasts the Catholic and Protestant views on infallibility and authority in the church. A thought-provoking exploration of tradition and scriptural interpretation!
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Doctrine Formation
- Catholics believe doctrine comes from scripture, tradition, and magisterium.
- Protestants believe doctrine comes from scripture alone (Sola Scriptura).
Neutral Framing
- Jimmy Akin points out that Gavin Ortlund's framing of "gospel vs. church" is rhetorically skillful but ultimately prejudicial.
- Akin suggests a neutral framing: "Both sides agree that Christian doctrine is to be based on divine revelation or the Word of God."
Papal Authority
- Gavin Ortlund accepts Peter's leadership but questions the continuation of papal authority without explicit New Testament evidence.
- He believes the ongoing nature of the papacy requires clear scriptural support.