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To excel in product management, real-world experience with products and companies is crucial. Training, mentorship, and reading serve as supplements, but true growth occurs through hands-on work with real data and customers. Developing products repeatedly is key to product management success, with emphasis on continual execution and improvement.
Reed Mostovoy shares his career journey transitioning from an engineer to a product leader across various companies, including Slack, Instacart, and Pixar. His experience highlights the significance of broadening expertise, moving from individual contributor to management roles, and tackling complex challenges to evolve as a successful product manager.
Navigating the shift from individual contributor to manager presents challenges like the 'product leader canyon', where executing tasks well differs from overseeing a team effectively. Success involves transitioning from 'doer' to 'editor', trusting team members, providing guidance based on their expertise levels, and focusing on maximizing impact with minimal effort to avoid 'manager death spiral'. Foster learning and leverage opportunities, communicate effectively, and prioritize scaling through strategic delegation and hiring.
Advisors should focus on marshaling resources effectively to address problems rather than solely relying on existing resources. The podcast stresses the importance of broadening expertise and effectively managing a range of product work types. It outlines the four types of product work: feature work, growth work, product-market fit expansion, and scaling, emphasizing the necessity of understanding each category in product leadership roles.
The podcast discusses the trend of experienced leaders transitioning to advisory roles, emphasizing the benefits of diversifying impact and expertise across multiple companies. However, it also highlights potential downsides such as lack of benefits, uncertain longevity, and continuous need for sales and business development efforts. It advises individuals aspiring to become full-time advisors to build a balance of depth and breadth in their experience and work at reputable organizations to enhance credibility.
Fareed Mosavat is Chief Development Officer at Reforge, where he leads production, content, and new-product experiences. Previously, he led growth and product teams at Slack and Instacart, was a GM at Zynga, and also served as VP of Product at RunKeeper. Before all of that, Fareed’s fascinating career began in engineering for Pixar, where he learned the art of storytelling and collaboration. In today’s episode, we talk about how his time at Pixar influenced the way he thinks about product, why it’s so difficult to become a better PM, and how to avoid the “manager death spiral.” Fareed shares important insights on how to earn the trust of your manager and coworkers, the four types of product work—and why you need to understand all four. He also provides solid examples of how to generalize your learnings and explains why this will expand your options, make you a better PM, and boost your chances of moving into a leadership role.
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Find the full transcript here: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-establish-credibility-and
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Where to find Fareed Mosavat:
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/far33d
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fareed/
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Where to find Lenny:
• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com
• Twitter: https://twitter.com/lennysan
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/
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Thank you to our wonderful sponsors for making this episode possible:
• Coda: http://coda.io/lenny
• Amplitude: https://amplitude.com/
• Vanta: https://vanta.com/lenny
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Referenced:
• Naval Ravikant’s Twitter thread about specific knowledge: https://twitter.com/naval/status/1002104865919664128
• Merci Grace on Lenny’s podcast: https://www.lennyspodcast.com/merci-grace-ex-head-of-growth-at-slack-on-plg-interviewing-storytelling-building-a-diverse-team-hiring-salespeople-building-a-growth-team-and-much-more/
• “Crossing the Canyon: Product Manager to Product Leader,” by Fareed Mosavat and Casey Winters: https://www.reforge.com/blog/crossing-the-canyon-product-manager-to-product-leader
• Casey Winters on Lenny’s podcast: https://www.podpage.com/lennys-podcast/how-to-sell-your-ideas-and-rise-within-your-company-casey-winters-eventbrite/
• Reforge: https://www.reforge.com/
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:38) Fareed’s background
(03:55) Lessons from Pixar
(09:07) What Fareed does at Reforge
(11:57) The scale of Reforge at this time
(13:51) Why it’s so difficult to become a better PM
(18:03) A PM pie chart—execution, generalizing your solutions, communication, and scaling
(23:00) How creating trust helped Fareed’s career grow
(26:24) How to gain trust by leveraging your curiosity and communication skills
(33:50) How to move from PM to Product Lead
(36:43) The manager death spiral and how to avoid it
(40:43) The four types of product work
(44:13) Moving from IC to product manager
(47:15) How to ask for the proper resources
(50:00) The trend of senior PMs diversifying into advising, teaching, and angel investing
(57:20) The downsides of being your own boss
(01:00:45) Advice for breaking into advising
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Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email podcast@lennyrachitsky.com.
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