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This week on The Thinking Muslim, we speak with Omar Abdulaziz, the Saudi dissident and activist whose phone was hacked using Israeli spyware technology for criticising the Saudi regime. In this wide-ranging conversation, we discuss Mohammed bin Salman’s Vision 2030, the drive toward normalisation with Israel, and the kingdom’s tightening grip over religion and dissent. We also ask a crucial question: is the Kaaba safe in Saudi hands?

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